The power of meditation | Gelong Thubten

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At A-Fest Montego Bay 2017, Gelong Thubten, the Tibetan Buddhist Monk who trained the movie cast of Dr. Strange, reveals the secret to strengthening your mind and the biggest misconceptions about pain, bliss, and meditation. Learn more from Vishen’s mentors and the best world’s best teachers to get to that next level of your life here in a 1-1 talk with Gelong and Vishen ? https://go.mindvalley.com/LquF0-gJ

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TIMESTAMPS OF THE IMPORTANT LESSONS FROM THIS VIDEO:
02:25 Our mind is bigger than our thoughts
10:33 I have been a monk for twelve year
16:34 Why “Wondering” is a good thing
21:00 What is the ocean?
26:01 The quality of our consciousness is love
30:13 A very clever thing about exercise
34:04 On stage meditation and breathing practice

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  1. Meditation is just life changing. I meditate daily, if I miss a day or so I really notice a difference. I feel so much better and have more energy after meditating….life is more effortless. The ability to REWIRE YOUR THINKING through meditation is such a GIFT.

  2. I began meditation daily several months ago. This helped me stop pushing and to just be. I liked the part about one-ness over compassion. I will admit- my life has changed for the better since began meditating. It’s now more soul vs ego/personality.

  3. Thank you ? thank you ?. ?❤️????❤️?❤️????❤️?❤️????❤️?❤️????❤️?❤️????❤️?❤️????❤️?Thank you so much. I enjoy listening to your wonderful talks, Thank you ? so much , ?❤️?❤️?❤️?❤️?❤️?❤️?❤️?❤️?❤️

  4. After Prince Siddharta ( known as Buddha) died over 2500 years ago , his words are taught by millions of people calling themselves ‘ Buddhist Teacher”.

    These people mostly monks are learning Buddha’s words from various sources , from so many kinds of practices / meditation , scriptures, or by lineage .

    And they are using what they learned , their skills and their experiences to teach people to know , to understand and to experience Buddha’s words .

    Their followers will then created a form of “ referrals” in mind and this referral later turned into a form of beliefs or faith .

    Their followers using what they have learned or experienced and strive to be the one they think they should be.

    So in short , Buddhist Teacher are using Buddha’s words to shape people into “ SOMEONE” …leading people to ‘ A GOAL “…….

    To me , this might be the greatest misleading of mankind .

    I have 2 points to highlight to all Buddhist Teacher .

    No 1 : BUDDHIST TEACHER ARE GUIDING PEOPLE BECOMING “ SOMEONE” BUT WHAT IF THE WORDS OF BUDDHA IS LEADING PEOPLE INTO “ NO ONE”?

    Dear Buddhist Teacher ,

    Human are keeping and holding on knowledge / skills / experience / memories in mind and the mind is like a a house full of rubbish and the owner of the house is constantly suffering, struggling to get out from the house but due to his nature , he is constantly collecting and keeping more and more rubbish into the house …….he continues to suffer from his own nature.

    Let me ask you a simple question :-

    What is left in mind if you take out all that you learned , all your knowledge , all your skills , all your experience , all your faith / beliefs and all your memories from your mind?

    PERHAPS , The one left in mind is YOU ……..so what are you ???

    PERHAPS ,YOU are EMOTION , you are desire , you are love , you are anger , you are hate , you are greed , you are will , you are fear , you are ego ….

    and the words of Buddha is simply like an arrow pointing at YOU not a guide of who you should be.

    You are always HERE and you should be at peace of what you are …..is you that suffer struggling to be there , trying to be someone .

    Awaken to own nature , one no longer holds on to anything in mind .

    The mind will be at ease and this will allow realization to occur .

    The realization will contract the mind and reduce the growth of emotion .

    Wisdom is the ability to forget all including own nature .

    But ,

    Is apparent that all Buddhist Teacher is teaching people to gain more knowledge , more skills , more faith and this is like collecting more rubbish into mind …

    The mind will expand and like an expanded balloon , the pressure inside the balloon will increase and pressure resembles suffering …..

    So Buddhist Teacher is leading people into a path of greater suffering in the name of Buddhism .

    No ( 2 ) WHAT IF THE WORDS OF BUDDHA IS NEVER ABOUT KNOWING OR UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCING ?

    Dear Buddhist Teacher ,

    Like all living , emotion has a natural nature to grow and emotion is feeding on “ referral” to grow and travel in life .

    Referrals is a form of knowledge / skills / experience / memories / faith etc .

    Emotion using the physical body as a tool to sense and by a process of thinking to generate referrals.

    Thinking is emotion in action .

    We thinking about learning to know , knowing to understand and understand to create referrals .

    So in other words , human think , human know and human understand to create referral that they will use it to grow more emotion and to live .

    Emotion will constantly hold on to all these referrals in mind.

    But !!!

    Each moment all nature is naturally changing …so holding anything in mind is like trying to block river water from naturally flowing into sea …that is suffering .

    Buddhist Teacher is causing people to create and hold on referral in mind and that is the basis of human suffering.

    What if the words of Buddha is never about knowing or understanding or experiencing?

    What if the words of Buddha is about REALIZATION and realization is of the opposite nature of knowing / understanding???

    So the more you know, the more you understand, the further you will travel away from realization .

    So in short , Buddhist Teaching is teaching people to understand and to hold on to Buddha’s words but Buddha’s words are about realization and realization is not something one should hold but rather is a factor that could lead one to naturally let go of what he holds .

    Wisdom is the ability to forget all in mind including own nature.

    So , there is a possibility that Buddhist Teacher is like someone giving you muddy water to wash your clothing and let you expect it to be cleaned ……you will suffer from your own nature .

    My name is Ee Chuan Seng from Malaysia . I am currently at a mind that claims there is the possibility that all Buddhist Teacher regardless of their background or nature of teaching, as long as they teach, they are misleading Buddha’s words.

    I am here with my real name and a face on my profile. I will be fully and solely responsible for all my claims.I cordially invite all Buddhist Teacher to debate with me on their reason and the nature of teaching Buddhism to challenge this current mind of me. My email is 1988csee@gmail.com

  5. Send $20,000 to each household, and start training people to work online at the same $2,000.00 per month. The masks, vaccines and other BS rules are to kill us folks.

  6. Thank you so much Sir for sharing your knowledge with us! I’m so grateful! I love the idea of compassion sandwich ??? for this gift ??

  7. This is a good talk for those beginning out on the path of meditation. Sooner or later one moves beyond this. You do not have to 'dedicate' your meditation to the rest, when you realise that you are one with the rest.

  8. You have confused me so much, ive been practicing that i am not my thought and emotion, ie anxiety. now you have said that i should accept that im anxiety and that my thoughts are a part of me. I am having inner conflict and now getting more anxious, as to which practice is right? Can someone help me. I truly believed I should be practicing that I am not my thoughts

  9. Why unique meditative states do not exist
    As a rule, simple and effective procedures are justified by simple and comprehensible explanations, which also affirm what you are doing and the limitations of what you can do. This is why we have confidence in our modern technologies from vaccinations to jet travel. Yet, for psychotherapeutic procedures, and in particular meditative procedures, this is not the case, as explanations for their efficacy are convoluted, complex, and most often untestable. Presented here is a simple argument that the presupposition of a unique meditative state must be abandoned, and in its place a neurologically updated definition of resting states, and a simple procedure that can confirm or falsify it.
    It must be emphasized that this does not in the slightest invalidate the importance of meditative practices, but ironically confirms and extends it. Indeed, shorn of it religious, new age, and neurological metaphors, meditative procedures can gain far greater acceptance and prominence in our everyday lives.

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    In a 1984 article in the flagship journal of the APA, ‘The American Psychologist’, the psychologist David Holmes reviewed the literature on meditation and concluded that meditative states are no different from resting states. The article (linked below) was roundly criticized because resting was presumably a dormant and non-affective state, quite at odds with the fact that meditation has affective and cognitive entailments that go beyond mere resting. However, from the perspective of affective neuroscience, resting states are not simple non-affective states but are dynamic affective states that are continually modulated by information derived from inner thoughts to outward perceptions. This position is not difficult to understand, and can be summarized below and easily falsified through simple procedure.

    The ideal for any scientist with a great idea is to be able to explain it in a minute, and to confirm or falsify it as quickly. The world record for this arguably goes to the English philosopher Samuel Johnson, who rejected Archbishop Berkeley’s argument that material things only exist in one’s mind by striking his foot against a large stone while proclaiming, “I refute it thusly!” So here is a novel procedure demonstrating the continuity of rest from mindful to ‘flow’ states, quickly refutable with a good swift kick!

    Summary
    Endogenous opioids are induced when we eat, drink, have sex, and relax, and are responsible for our pleasures. Opioid activity however is not static, but labile, or changeable. When elicited, opioid release is always modulated by concurrently perceived novel act-outcome expectancies which may range from negative to positive. If they are negative (e.g. a spate of bad news or bad implications of our behavior), opioid activity is suppressed and our pleasures are reduced (anhedonia), but if they are positive, then opioid activity is enhanced and our pleasures are accentuated as well (peak experience, ‘flow’). This is due to dopamine-opioid interactions, or the fact that act-outcome discrepancy, or positive or negative surprises, can induce or suppress dopaminergic activity, which in turn can enhance or suppress opioid release. This can be demonstrated procedurally, and if correct, can provide a therapeutic tool to increase arousal and pleasure, or positive wellbeing, and mitigate stress.

    Basic Facts:
    Endogenous opioids are induced when we eat, drink, have sex, and relax. Their affective correlate, or how it ‘feels’, is a sense of pleasure. The neuro-modulator dopamine is released upon the anticipation or perception of positive act-outcome discrepancy or novelty, and is felt a sense of arousal or ‘energy’, but not pleasure.

    Fun Fact:
    When we are concurrently perceiving some activity that has a variable and unexpected rate of reward while consuming something pleasurable, opioid activity increases and with it a higher sense of pleasure. In other words, popcorn tastes better when we are watching an exciting movie than when we are watching paint dry. The same effect occurs when we are performing highly variable rewarding or meaningful activity (creating art, doing good deeds, doing productive work) while in a pleasurable relaxed state. (Meaning would be defined as behavior that has branching novel positive implications). This is commonly referred to as ‘flow’ or ‘peak’ experience. The same phenomenon underscores the placebo effect, which describes how expectancies can increase dopamine and opioid activity, such as when a meal is tastier or a sugar pill reduces pain when we anticipate they will.

    So why does this occur?
    Dopamine-Opioid interactions: or the fact that dopamine activity (elicited by positive novel events, and responsible for a state of arousal, but not pleasure) interacts with our pleasures (as reflected by mid brain opioid systems), and can actually stimulate opioid release, which is reflected in self-reports of greater pleasure.

    Proof (or kicking the stone):
    Just get relaxed using a relaxation protocol such as progressive muscle relaxation, eyes closed rest, or mindfulness, and then follow it by exclusively attending to or performing meaningful activity, and avoiding all meaningless activity or ‘distraction’. Keep it up and you will not only stay relaxed, but continue so with a greater sense of wellbeing or pleasure. (In other words, this is a procedural bridge between mindful and ‘flow’ experiences that are not unique psychological ‘states’, but merely represent special aspects of resting states.) The attribution of affective value to meaningful behavior makes the latter seem ‘autotelic’, or reinforcing in itself, and the resultant persistent and the resultant persistent attention to meaning crowds out the occasions we might have spent dwelling on other unmeaningful worries and concerns.

    A Likely Explanation, as if you need one!
    A more formal explanation from a neurologically based learning theory of this technique is provided on pp. 44-51 in a little open-source book on the psychology of rest linked below. (The flow experience discussed on pp. 81-86.) The book is based on the work of the distinguished affective neuroscientist Kent Berridge, who was kind to review for accuracy and endorse the work.

    From meditation to flow
    Affect in rest is labile, or changeable, and rest (i.e. the general deactivation of the covert musculature) is not an inert and non-affective state, but modulates affective systems in the brain. In addition, the degree of the modulation of pleasurable affect induced by rest is not dependent upon a species of attention (focal meditation, mindfulness meditation), but is ‘schedule dependent’, and correlates with the variability of schedules or contingencies of reward and the discriminative aspects of incentives (i.e. their cognitive implications). In other words, sustained meaningful activity or the anticipation of acting meaningfully during resting states increases the affective ‘tone’ or value of that behavior, thus making productive work ‘autotelic’, or rewarding in itself, and providing a consistent feeling of arousal and pleasure, or shall we say, ‘happiness’.

    References:

    Rauwolf, P., et al. (2021) Reward uncertainty – as a 'psychological salt'- can alter the sensory experience and consumption of high-value rewards in young healthy adults. Journal of Experimental Psychology: General (prepub)
    https://doi.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fxge0001029

    Benedetti, F., et al(2011). How placebos change the patient's brain. Neuropsychopharmacology : official publication of the American College of Neuropsychopharmacology, 36(1), 339–354.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3055515/

    The Psychology of Rest
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/284056765/The-Book-of-Rest-The-Odd-Psychology-of-Doing-Nothing

    The Psychology of Incentive Motivation and Affect
    https://www.scribd.com/document/495438436/A-Mouse-s-Tale-a-practical-explanation-and-handbook-of-motivation-from-the-perspective-of-a-humble-creature

    Meditation and Rest- The American Psychologist
    https://www.scribd.com/document/291558160/Holmes-Meditation-and-Rest-The-American-Psychologist
    The Psychology of Rest, from International Journal of Stress Management, by this author
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/121345732/Relaxation-and-Muscular-Tension-A-bio-behavioristic-explanation

    History and Development of Motivation Theory – Berridge
    https://lsa.umich.edu/psych/research&labs/berridge/publications/Berridge2001Rewardlearningchapter.pdf
    Berridge Lab, University of Michigan https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/berridge-lab/

  10. Omg, I so enjoy listening to your guidance, it’s all explained in a way that resonates with me unlike other speakers have left me confused ( no fault of theirs , just takes me a little longer

  11. when we meditate we may become boundless or non physical, we become part of the cosmos or nature itself. the highest level of any meditation is to obtain "SELF DISSOLUTION" and remove the DUALITY problems in our minds.