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Eckhart responds to a question about avoiding adopting a “victimhood identity” in the wake of trauma or abuse.
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Thank you for your invaluable wisdom ❤️ starting from my childhood I’ve had a lot of victim identity and tons of suppressed anger and sad ness resulting therefrom because I didn’t fit in school and also grew up with emotionally neglecting parents. It’s not easy to grow up in this unconscious society and some of us experience it more than others but therefore we get the chance to become more conscious! ❤️?? Every suffering is a chance to awaken more
I am really enjoying engaging more with Eckhart but I feel he misses a crucial point here. He talks about instances of individual and collective victimisation as memory but that's not how things are. It is a very present everyday lived experience for billions on a personal, institutional and systemic level where people are forced to navigate endemic inequities, bias, discrimination, hatred and violence because of their identity. It is hard to transcend the ego or find the resources to start doing so or focus on that when others are forcing it down your throat, daily, on multiple levels, in negative, hateful and oblivious ways. The ground is not equal.
So it basically comes down to the story we have/ tell ourselves, about our lives, for better or worse? And that we ultimately are not the story we tell ourselves to be, that the story keeps us imprisoned, to live in the moment?
I do agree to that, to certain degree, but I believe there are more levels to this: The main thing with abuse, done to children, is the thing they can't take it in their own space yet. They just try to deal with it, on their level of understanding and it mixes with their foundations of life. That is why a lot of those abused children get major problems later in life. Especially if they are sensitive!
The thing most of those children get lost about, later in life, this (you mention) is only part of it/some effect of the society they live in.
The main thing, with those victims, is that they (sooner or later in life) are faced with that their truth doesn't fit into reality. They find out they can't trust themselves, to make choices in their best interest. And it is a hard and tough road to find ones way around that!
So some end up, for example, living/ shouting on the street to others, but that has nothing to do with their ego in essence. At least imo. Most are just lost to themselves and that is not going to be fixed, from a reflection like this. Like further than any concept on the outside.
Maybe you can reflect on this? Thanx!
Why is the sound and video quality always so bad on Eckhart Tolle live videos?
Millions of dollars made with Eckhart Tolle, and then something like that…
"I am a victim of my ego" is another tricky one…and even the thought "my ego is evil.." ?
yes, and the ego is a tool that politics use all the time to manipulate people. They boost and feed the ego labelling, controlling and treating groups of persons as victims all the time. So it is unhealthy to fall into their traps and be permanently identified with the victim role. Many people will not agree with that and feel satisfied and empowered with the victim role but well, it is ok to know how it works and where those kind of egoic behaviours can lead people to.
this video explains what victim identity is and where it comes from but does not say how to deal with it
Moral superiority delusion ? about who you are ???✌️✌️✌️
Please do something about the audio quality.
I want to ask anybody who understands how you deal with victimhood identity, how you heal yourself from it ? I understood presence is very important, but what you do with it, what is the step by step ?
This is full of subliminals
This message is SO relevant in 2022.
You're a boring person
so true thanks Eckhart love roslyn
This speech is very profound.
It made me to remember the moments when I was striving to identify myself as a victim – in workplace, with relatives, in relationships and etc.
It's very important to recognize such tendencies in yourself and to draw the line between the ego and the right thoughts.
In order to do this, one has to train this in his everyday life and it should give a result. Just as a physical training.
The volume of the sound seems to get louder or softer with your own voice so it's harder to listen to comfortably and understand. It's a microphoning problem. It sounds like bad cell connection, in other words. I hope this isn't the standard for all upcoming videos.
8:29 jumpscare ?
Eckhart is such a high functioning ASD guy whose genius comes from being neuro atypical. His spiritual perceptions definitely come from a brain that's unusually wired.
Tanks for your visdom.?❤️
There is a lot of collective victim mentality within religions.
This is pure gold.
I have heard something similar before. Although I agree that we can exploit our past pain by boosting our ego I find the explanation limited.
We have a real problem in our world where unbalanced or subconscious people are ongoing dominating individuals and groups because they find themselves superior. These are masculine energy people dismissing all related to the feminine energy and it’s manifestations including consciousness, society and nature. This onesided focus on the masculine energy causes an imbalance that is fundamentally destroying our planet and it’s life. The unbalanced activities are causing deep pain and suffering in the marginalized feminine group.
In Africa where I live people are struggling to survive because they are victims of the eternal greed of the manifestations of the masculine energy. What I meet are not victim inflated egos but people carrying huge burdens of hardship and sadness.
I would like to know how we stop the unconscious humans; how we can balance their masculine energy with a portion of the feminine to create balance and harmony that can save our previous planet and it’s beautiful life.
Eckhart has added so many levels of profound wisdom to my life, that I get tears of gratitude just listening to him
So helpful I feel I was trapped in this identity for some time.. I am seeing it gives us no liberation.. I just watched that powerful Netfix documentary on Janet Jackson and she was so strong in never acting like a victim even when really misunderstood by society.
We are part of a culture that glorifies victimhood. It's a whole new level of blame and punishment creating yet more victims.
Do not get a victim by bad sound.
This definitely hit home for me. I'm still trying to connect the dots with how keeping and identifying yourself as a victim even if those things did happen to you give you a high sense of morality, like is it the mentality of " wow even though such and such happened to me I'm still such a good person, and I would never inflict the pain that I've felt unto others?" Bc there's definitely a huge sense of that in the world and my ego has definitely been very very guilty of this.
@8:29 What was that?
There are states that use this collective victimhood and inflict suffering to other communities continously ! And this results of course in a vicious cycle of aggression , pain and injustice . Everyone suffers in the end. This is the evil power of the ego . Ego is extremely dangerous . I wish that all humans would become conscious of that. Thank you for all your teachings ?
Thank you Eckhart for this video! ??
I hope one day he will introduce the super potent, simple technique of recuperating the energy trapped in the past: the technique of the recapitulation breath as presented byTaisha Abelar and Carlos Castaneda. It will function as a GREAT compliment of his strategy and insights!
Thank you for this teaching, this is one source of suffering that we inflict on ourselves. Recognizing it is a good start to liberation.
Do you believe depression can be healed if you're just becoming conscious of this?
what was that weird face that briefly flashed up at 8:29 ?
so true! The Woke culture is an example of collective victim identity! And it's getting bonkers now!
I ❤️ you, what you call not aware humans, I call superficial ??❤️
Thank you. Who’s the lady in the flash-frame at 08:30?
God bless you echarte; excellent work
This is more important in this day and age than ever before.
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When I figure out how much these videos have helped me beat Parkinson's, I'll finish my autobiography & post a link.
Meanwhile, I sent a link to this video to my friend/neighbor MC here in Akko because when we met, I was saying, see how bad it is, I have to hold the wall to get to the toilet. (My legs were that shaky now I am fine). MC said, "you think that's bad? I was so bad once I had to crawl on the floor to get to the toilet. You've got it easy." It went on like that, for 10 months, until I moved out (down the street across the railroad tracks, not very far). Luckily, we had two psychotherapists that both referred each of us to these videos. I still send him clips, links & comments, it always sounds like you're talking about us. Thanks.
Thank you, this is so well explained and I imagine it would be hard to listen to some and for us to recognise the victim in us. The ego is so clever, thanks for pointing this out to all of us. You’re doing a great service to humanity.
Nice stuff
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thank you to free us from self identification
8:29, a woman's face appears.